I see length I see cost I see weight. None were as comfortable as the 6.5 Creedmoor, which is due partly to the cartridge and partly to the platform. Continue to turn the silencer clockwise to ratchet down the silencer tight against the locking collar. Supressed. The Nomad L suppressed the .308 Win. Leonxxxi Replies: 9 Views: 179 1/15/2021 8:11 PM Quintin SureFire SOCOM Flash Hider. The 8.9 inch long Sandman-L offers a sound reduction of 31dB with standard 7.62 ammunition. The ones I’m looking at are the sandman S/L from Dead Air and the SD/SD-N from AAC. with my impression of each can. There’s nothing like a quality suppressor on a bolt gun. Reviews; Write a Review; INTRODUCING THE SANDMAN-K. comfortable doesn’t mean it’s not causing hearing damage, especially over the SilencerCo Saker vs Dead Air Sandman S. Thread starter TJ208; Start date Feb 18, 2015; TJ208 Member. more effectively than the other cans I tested. to bring all volumes to within a certain decibel range—they make loud sounds I’d want to wear hearing Third, you can see on the 6.5 Creedmoor chart that all The Sandman-S delivers performance in a small package. between the two, including while shooting the 7mm Mag. On any of these platforms, it works incredibly well. This is no knock on Dead Air or the Sandman-K. protection if I planned to shoot for an extended session, but the L would be Feb 18, 2015 #1. I’ll be the first to admit that I’m not a sound engineer (if do a poor job representing the in-person experience. If a brake wasn’t used, which end cap? At 6.8 inches in length and a weight of 18.5 oz the Sandman-S™ is the perfect cross-over suppressor for your 5.56mm, 300BLK, and 7.62 platforms, even up to .300 Win Mag. I switched from the Trifecta to ASR, and finally to Dead Air's key-mo mount, which is fantastic. re: Silencerco Omega Vs dead air sandman S Posted by boatless2 on 10/2/17 at 12:59 am to Ice Cream Sammich Well after watching a bunch of YouTube videos, and talking with y’all, the dead air was consistently louder decibel wise than the thunder beast, silencerco omega, … That performance starts with the design and manufacturing process. Line up the indexing mark on the silencer with the vertical groove on the mount to slide the silencer on. At launch, the Sandman-S shipped with a muzzle-brake based mount. Did Mike Pappas hit a home run with the Sandman series. Located on top of the brake are an additional three ports that aid in reducing muzzle climb. Sam works at Fossil Pointe, and he’s my go-to guy for suppressor info. Over time this is something I’ve grown very fond of, considering the other suppressors I’ve used. It wasn’t unpleasant, but not as comfortable as the L. At the time, the longer Nomad was referred to as the Nomax. For the person demanding absolute sound reduction, look no further than the Dead Air Sandman-L. Izhevsk54r. My question is should I fit my uppers with flash hiders or muzzle breaks? Not a huge surprise when you consider the burnt off Cerakote in the above photos. I shot and recorded rounds from a bolt action rifle chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor, an AR-15 chambered in .308 WIN, and another AR-15 chambered in 300 Blackout. Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by theboyscout, Nov 8, 2019. theboyscout Member. Alright industry folks in the know, give me the low down. It is full-auto rated for 5.56 NATO, but users shouldn’t feed more than five or six mags through without letting the can cool off. Dead Air Suppressors - Nomad vs Sandman. was also uncomfortable through each The QD system is design perfection. The aesthetics and engineering with these two mounts is second to none. Three years ago a batch of Dead Air Sandman silencers arrived at my local gun shop. Dead Air Sandman-S: 10,000 Rounds Later. Dead Air Sandman-S… They’ve followed the release of their popular Nomad 30 with an even quieter suppressor designed for big calibers and hard use—the Nomad L. With the help of Fossil Pointe Sporting Grounds in Decatur, Texas, I had a chance to compare the Nomad L to three other suppressors: the Nomad 30, the Dead Air Sandman-L, and the SilencerCo Hybrid. Next post: Building My First Belt-Fed: Semi-Auto RPD Build Part 3, Previous post: Vision Problems & Solutions for Shooters: What To Do When It’s Hard to See The Sights. With now four distinct models—S, L, K, and TI—of their Sandman silencer, the Dead Air crew covers all bases in the 7.62mm rifle can classification. He told me that they compared the Nomad L against the much Joined Oct 12, 2020 Messages 16. quiets the sound more quickly than the other three. The sweet spot the original Nomad delivered got sweeter, and about 2 inches longer than its sibling. Showdown: Pocket Rocket v. PMR30 — Full Review, SIG Sibling Showdown: The MCX Rattler versus MPX…, Air Power for the Apocalypse: SIG Air's ASP 20 Break…, Building My First Belt-Fed: Semi-Auto RPD Build Part 3, Vision Problems & Solutions for Shooters: What To Do When It’s Hard to See The Sights. Dead air sandman k vs s vs l vs ti. The Sandman-K on the 10.3″ BLK was certainly not hearing-safe by any means – even with subsonic loads. Even though the Nomad-L is Dead Air’s newest release, we did get a preview of its performance last year thanks to Discreet Ballistics hosting a sound metering day incorporating nearly two dozen manufacturers makes and models of 30 caliber suppressors. summary of the notes I took while shooting. Continue to turn the silencer clockwise to ratchet down the silencer tight against the locking collar. Jordan Michaels has been reviewing firearm-related products for over four years and enjoying them for much longer. You may not be familiar with Thunderbeast, but suffice it to say, anything that can stand toe-to-toe with one of their products is a winner. I have a Saker 762, Sandman S, and Socom 762 mini 2 (very similar length/weight to Sandman S). The K has the class leading solid weld Stellite ® baffle core and detachable front cap, just like the rest of our Sandman Series. The end cap is constructed from Grade 5 titanium, and the rear mount is nitrided stainless steel. That means your Nomad-L can have the same robust and proven quick attachment method as our Sandman models, giving you the best of both worlds. You can see in that chart that the Hybrid signature resembles the “no can” One hand removal in just seconds. At 9" and 21.8 oz it felt really good and the fact that it is rated for up to .300 Win Mag just makes it better. Plus, the Nomad-L is compatible with all Sandman front caps. You can take this for what you think it’s worth. First, I couldn’t discern any differences between the cans more expensive Thunderbeast Ultra9 with 308 Win., 6.5 Creedmoor, and 7mm Mag. The Sandman-S, shorter than its Sandman-L sibling, features the same stainless steel and stellite construction with a … Even after all that high-temp abuse, the QD-Mounting system refuses to give up. This is child’s play for any suppressor worth its salt, and all four suppressors were up to the challenge. * This is the best performing and quietest 7.62 suppressor on the market. I wrote “hearing safe-ish” in my notes about the Nomad 30. With its direct thread attachment and titanium tube it’s the perfect fit for your precision rifle, or even for dedicated use under your AR pattern rifle forend. As I mentioned above, At 6.8 inches in length and a weight of 18.5 oz the Sandman-S™ is the perfect cross-over suppressor for your 5.56mm, 300BLK, and 7.62 platforms, even up to .300 Win Mag. Microphones are designed The Sandman can be securely installed or removed with one hand in one step. The Nomad L produced a sharp crack, but I found the sound to That mount is why I purchased the Sandman S. I'm very pleased with the Sandman. course of an entire range session. Does this suppressor allow me to shoot without experiencing discomfort? And the Sandman-L at 8.9″ is fantastic. Turn the silencer five degrees clockwise to engage the locking lugs. 30 in fourth. ... DEAD AIR ARMAMENT - SANDMAN-S RIFLE SUPPRESSOR. they were all uncomfortable to shoot, and the signature of each can is the most The current market for QD mounts was plagued by exposed threads or secondary locking collars that instantly seemed sub-par. Dead Air Sandman-S The "S" is for short. At 6.8 inches in length and a weight of 18.5 oz the Sandman-S™ is the perfect cross-over suppressor for your 5.56mm, 300BLK, and 7.62 platforms, even up to .300 Win Mag. I hope they’ll give you a clearer picture of the experience. Sandman-K. Testing the Sandman L on a .308 Savage and an AR15. The Nomad-L is designed and manufactured in Georgia, and uses a tubeless design with 17-4 stainless steel laser-welded baffles. Also, the noise produced by these accessories is far less noticeable. No wobble, no seizing, no … It was clear in only a matter of minutes that these would be a game changer for the quick detach silencer market. Note: It will only go on one way, minimizing point of impact shift. Absolutely. Feb 18, 2015 #1. I can appreciate their well-trained palates, but when it comes to suppressors, I’m only interested in one thing: comfort. The muzzle devices themselves are no slouch either. dull thud I described above. Dead Air would wait until later to release their three prong flash hider Looking to eliminate the pinging sound associated with other 3-prong flash hiders of the time, their design featured cut-outs on the tines. The L model (review forthcoming), shows the telltale color changes to indicate that it had been run hard, and Torrey indicated that the S model hadn’t been babied either. These would eliminate a phenomenon commonly this is referred to as the “tuning fork effect”. The QD-Mount is inevitably what sold me on a Sandman. Plus, Dead Air puts their money where their mouth is. Anyone have experience with these? the L and the Sandman. quieter and quiet sounds louder. Thread starter tgoff; Start date Oct 26, 2020; Oct 26, 2020 #1 T. tgoff Junior Member. The L isn’t the cheapest suppressor on the market, but nothing beats its performance and durability—even more expensive cans. And that's what it is at 6.8 inches in length with a weight of 17.3 oz. Nomad 30. Whether you call them silencers, cans, gun mufflers, or did experience some discomfort in my left ear, and you can actually hear a Six lugs (three primary and three safety) on the silencer attach it to the host weapon. be manageable for one or two rounds in succession. Dead Air at the muzzle - 136.1 db, 136.1 db, 140.8 db, 135.8 db, 137.6 db (137.3 db avg) Dead Air at the ear - 150.1 db, 149.6 db, 147.2 db, 148.3 db, … can, but the Hybrid was by far the least comfortable and the L was the most. No seizing, and minimal point of impact shifts. Dead Air Sandman S. Leonxxxi. comments! there are any sound engineers reading, let us know your thoughts in the . Sharing all of the features of the Sandman-S and Sandman-L, while adding only 2.9″ to your muzzle.. One hand removal in just seconds. I didn’t notice any difference among the cans tested—in all four, the action produced the loudest sound. There really wasn’t another QD (quick-detach) silencer that had all these features. Turn the silencer five degrees clockwise to engage the locking lugs. The Sandman-L ™ uses our industry best QD system for fool-proof quick one handed mounting. to the L, with the Hybrid coming in second, the Sandman in third, and the Nomad Cant really find anything on google directly comparing these 2, only the nomad and the L or Ti. The 17-4 stainless steel used for the baffles is a precipitation-hardened steel designed to provide corrosion resistance and high strength at temperatures up to 600 degrees Fahrenheit. I wasn’t able to bring any magnum rifles on this trip, but I did speak with Sam Scalco. the Hybrid landed somewhere closer to the Nomad 30. pick up significant differences. Of course, the Sandman-S at 6.8″ would perform better. The Nomad 30 was louder and less comfortable to shoot than Now you don’t have to worry about that friend who may or may not have engaged the locking collar. the sound in the same way a wine expert likes the taste of wine—we use them to Posted November 28, 2018 in Editorial, Guns & Gear, NFA / Suppressors / Class III by Austin R with No CommentsTags: Dead Air Armament, rifle, sandman, silencer, suppressor. were several people on the range that day and most couldn’t tell any difference Suppressors. suppressors, once you enter the wonderful world of quiet shooting, there’s no The Sandman Ti™ is your huckleberry. I find it interesting, but it may not mean much to someone with more technical sound training. Would I buy it again if given the chance? I plan on using the suppressor most of the time, but not always. I didn’t use a decibel meter because smart people tell me it’s doesn’t tell you whether a sound is “hearing safe” or not. This two-stage thread-less mount (now known simply as KyMo) is a game changer. But the patterns I see align in several ways They both produced a similar level of discomfort as the On top of that, the pitch or tone when fired is much lower than that of other silencers on the market. The S suppressors provide an outstanding balance between K and L models. Surprising is how well this suppressor has fared over the years. To help you see, hear, and visualize what I heard, I also took video of every can and caliber and threw the sounds in an audio editor to produce an audio signature. Sure, those ratcheting teeth aren’t as sharp as they used to be, but they still work and show no signs of giving up. perfect on a hunting rig when you only plan to take one or two shots. In an effort to satisfy more requirements, Dead Air has introduced the fourth (and shortest) member of the Sandman family - The Sandman K. The K model takes the mounting system and user swappable end caps used on the longer S and L models and lops an extra inch and a half off the end of the S … going back. If you are already a fan of Dead Air muzzle devices, you’ll be happy to know the Nomad-L is Key-Mo compatible. That’s the standard I used when I compared the Nomad L, Nomad 30, Dead Air Sandman-L, and SilencerCo Hybrid across .308 WIN, 6.5 Creedmoor, and 300 Blackout. Listening to some folks describe suppressor sounds reminds me of listening to fine wine or craft beer connoisseurs describe their favorite beverage. If God had a gun to my head, I think I’d still give the nod Mfr Part: SMS762. To help you see, hear, and visualize what I heard, I also took video of every can and caliber and threw the sounds in an audio editor to produce an audio signature. The Nomad-L can be used with E-Brake as well, which reduces felt recoil and muzzle rise. The Sandman-S is the shorter version suppressor in Dead Air’s notorious Sandman 7.62mm silencer line. I shot it on a 10.5" 300blk subsonic ammo and it sounded as you would expect, quiet. Founded by suppressor godfather Mike Pappas, Dead Air has made a name for itself constructing high-quality, super-quiet cans right here in the USA. suppressors do a nice job modifying the “no can” signature, but the Hybrid I have a Dead Air Sandman S in NFA jail, but am trying to set up some rifles and a pistol for when it comes in. None performed poorly, to my ears, but the L produced the least discomfort. About the author: So first off, a nomad, keymo adapter, and flash hider will run me about 1100 before stamp it seems, and a sandman S is about 300 cheaper with flash hider. Second, the 308 Win. like the “no can” signature. That’s why I’ve included under each video a While looking over my shooting logs last month I realized that the Sandman-S had crossed over the 10,000 round mark. 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